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greetings citizens and welcome to

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i'm jason mcclellan thanks for hanging

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out with me

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ufo crash retrievals this is an area of

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ufo research that's gained interest

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recently

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so let's take a little time today and

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explore it

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a main reason for the recent surge and

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interest about the retrievals of crashed

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ufos

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is an article published by the new york

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times on july 23

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2020 titled no longer in the shadows

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pentagon's ufo unit will make some

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findings public

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the article's authors leslie kane and

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ralph blumenthal point out that former

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senate majority leader harry reid

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believes quote that crashes of objects

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of unknown origin

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may have occurred and that retrieved

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materials should be studied

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end quote this is a sentiment that

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reed has mentioned a couple times to

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klas investigative reporter george knapp

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in 2009 reed tried to get the pentagon

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to turn

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atip into a special access program a

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more classified

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operation in part because he wanted to

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connect with other secret programs

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that may or may not have hard evidence

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of ufos

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including materials or technology

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recovered from crash sites

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one reason i did that is there's always

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there are some public corporations that

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have

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uh materials that we should look at

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now i wanted to make sure that that was

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valid or not valid

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but i couldn't get they wouldn't defense

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exotic materials

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uh i don't know but you know there's

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been a lot of talk about that the times

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eric davis a former pentagon

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subcontractor

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who says he quote gave a classified

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as recently as march about retrievals

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from off-world vehicles

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not made on this earth end quote davis

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was contracted by

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a private organization owned by real

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estate and private space tycoon

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robert bigelow bass received a

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government contract to study all sorts

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the new york times published an article

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that not only revealed this

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but also reported that basque quote

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that mr elizondo and program contractors

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end quote the mr elizondo mentioned here

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pentagon's ufo project

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without presenting physical proof say

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that objects of undetermined origin have

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with materials retrieved for study end

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that reid's quote interest in ufos came

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that a lot of these recent claims

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of recovered ufo crashes seemingly share

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an incestuous relationship robert

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of arts and science or ttsa

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layered he says in ways that produced

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of dod's black programs and spent over a

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highly frustrating end quote and that we

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simply and impartially follow the trail

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wherever it leads

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this is possible end quote to which

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while i have no reason to believe there

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is any recovered alien technology

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i will say this if it were me and i were

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i'd take it outside government oversight

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saucer somewhere but i've never seen

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anything remotely supportive of such

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incredible claims

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end quote atip was reportedly an

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official program

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with an interest in ufos and reportedly

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it wasn't a top-secret program either so

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it's interesting that melon was

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seemingly unaware of its existence

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in 2016. of course these statements are

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from four years ago

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and mellon now spends his time working

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with ufo-focused companies so his views

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on

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some of this have likely changed but do

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keep in mind that these statements were

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based on what he knew

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from his career as a well-connected

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government official

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any new information that may have

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influenced his belief

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would have come from his current

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colleagues and others not from any

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first-hand knowledge gained during his

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government career

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in the recent new york times article the

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authors cautiously and responsibly added

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statements like

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quote in some cases earthly explanations

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have been found

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for previously unexplained incidents

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even lacking a plausible terrestrial

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explanation

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does not make an extraterrestrial one

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the most likely astrophysicists say

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end quote and here's another one quote

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no crashed artifacts have been publicly

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produced for independent verification

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some retrieved objects such as unusual

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metallic fragments

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were later identified from laboratory

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studies as man-made

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in quote now this is good responsible

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objective journalism on the part of the

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authors but don't misinterpret this as

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saying

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there's nothing noteworthy to look at

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when it comes to the subject of ufo

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crash retrievals

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and also don't think that this is some

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new sexy angle being added to the ufo

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discussion

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crash retrievals have always been a part

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of ufo lore

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just think about the 1947 roswell ufo

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incident it's a prime example

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but it's just one of so many so much has

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been written on crash retrievals

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and it is its own subset of ufo research

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and it's this area of research that

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really thrusts leslie kane into the

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world of ufo journalism

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back in the early 2000s she co-founded

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the coalition for freedom of information

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an independent alliance advocating for

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greater government openness

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on information about ufos she was the

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plaintiff in a five-year

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freedom of information act federal

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lawsuit against nasa

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for withholding documents related to the

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1965 keksburg ufo incident

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on december 9th 1965 witnesses observed

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a fireball shooting through the evening

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sky

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the ufo appeared to make what seemed

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like a controlled crash landing in the

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woods

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witnesses described the ufo as looking

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like a giant acorn they also describe

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that the area was quickly closed off by

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the military

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and something was removed on a large

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flatbed truck

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in 2009 kane explained to space.com's

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leonard david

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quote after previously promising to

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conduct an expedited search for files

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related to the 1965 kecksburg ufo crash

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case

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nasa had stonewalled and was withholding

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documents

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leaving no recourse but this one a

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settlement four years later

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in october 2007 required nasa to provide

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hundreds of new documents

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and pay my attorney's legal fees end

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quote

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no smoking gun was found in these

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documents but it was revealed that many

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related files were either missing

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or had been destroyed one of the more

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interesting items

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at least to me that kane had discussed

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related to these nasa files

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is project moondust a federal program

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involving the retrieval of space debris

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and objects of unknown origin this

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project reportedly worked with the air

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force's project blue book

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and the foreign technology division at

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wright-patterson air force base

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so there's just one example of a

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government entity

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tasked with crash retrievals and as i've

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been saying for a while now

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it really shouldn't surprise anybody

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that there would be a special group or

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multiple groups specifically responsible

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for going out

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and recovering downed objects test

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flights of top secret

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stuff happen all the time and even if

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something isn't top secret

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the military would understandably be

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standing by to recover its assets

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should they crash somewhere that's just

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common sense

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but yeah it's also conceivable that

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these same groups would also be

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responsible for the recovery of any

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unknowns that crashes well

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one intriguing story that always comes

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to my mind when talking about the topic

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of ufo crash retrievals

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is the unusual material that george

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knapp smuggled out of russia

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an alleged ufo crash happened in russia

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in 1986

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george knapp traveled to the crash site

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in the 90s and was given pieces of

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material reportedly recovered from the

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crash site

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knapp snuck these pieces out of the

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country and in 2012 when the national

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atomic testing museum in las vegas

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nevada opened its area 51

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myth or reality exhibit it featured a

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piece of this material donated by nap

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the information card accompanying the

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exhibit called it a

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quote authentic alien artifact end quote

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and the description stated quote three

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soviet academic centers and 11 research

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institutes

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analyzed the objects from this ufo crash

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the distance between

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atoms is different from ordinary iron

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radar cannot be reflected from the

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material

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and new ones appear after heating

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one piece disappeared completely in

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front of four witnesses

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the core of the material is composed of

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a substance with

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anti-gravitational properties end quote

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so here is one example of a piece of

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material

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with some pretty incredible claims nap

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has had these since the 90s

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and they were on public display in 2012

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and if i remember correctly i think he

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may have even given a piece to robert

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bigelow

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but lisa even wrote about this medal in

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the huffington post

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back in 2012. so the subject of ufo

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crash retrieval certainly isn't new

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and it's not something that hasn't been

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covered in mainstream media before

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and very early in my professional ufo

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career right after we had formed the ufo

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media company

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openminds we were asked to provide

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production support

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for an annual conference that took place

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in las vegas called the ufo crash

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retrieval conference

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which was put on by ufo researcher ryan

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wood yeah

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an entire conference centered around the

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theme of crash retrievals

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again crash retrievals have always been

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part of ufo lore

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and it's an exciting subset of this

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phenomenon to explore

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mysterious materials from unknown

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objects that might be extraterrestrial

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in origin

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it's hard not to find that exciting but

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of course

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we always have to keep our excitement in

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check when it comes to stuff like this

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we have to carefully analyze the source

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of the material the claims behind them

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who is making those claims what testing

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has been done

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who did the testing and so much more as

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with all things in ufo research

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you have to make sure you don't get so

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excited by something

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that you lose your objectivity and we

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always want to see objectivity exercise

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when it comes to any kind of testing and

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scientific analysis

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unfortunately that's rare when it comes

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to testing of

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alleged alien materials some of the

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biggest claims made about alleged alien

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material

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have been made by people with very

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pro-ufo opinions

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and very personal connections to the

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material in question

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that's not to say that people closely

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connected to something

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or with strong feelings about ufos are

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incapable of performing good science

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but for objectivity's sake to avoid the

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appearance of favoring one outcome over

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the other

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testing of this kind always benefits

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from multiple

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independent labs where tests are

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performed by specialists

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who have no stake in the results and

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where multiple results can be compared

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of course when it comes to ufos and

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those rare opportunities

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where there is a small amount of

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something to test this is asking a lot

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and in many cases just isn't feasible

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and this is just one of many reasons why

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proving

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anything is from an extraterrestrial

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spacecraft

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is exceptionally challenging and

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unlikely to happen anytime

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soon but it doesn't mean that those who

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are pursuing this avenue of research

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should give up not at all i think it's

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great that people are willing to invest

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time and resources into this area of ufo

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research

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i love to say that with something as

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enigmatic as ufos

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it only benefits the research to have

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people doing all the things

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all the time

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out with me today i'm jason mcclellan

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do us a favor friends always treat the

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ufo subject with the cautious and

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responsible skepticism it deserves

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question everything have the courage to

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form your own opinions

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keep truth as the focus of your quest

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even if the truth